I did enjoy this class on effective classroom management.  I learned some new ways other teachers handled certain situations.  There were many good suggestions and ideas.  I also loved being able to do the classwork on my time.  I loved being able to work from home whenever I could fit it in. I feel the class was very convenient for me.  Thanks everyone for your input and sharing...

Thanks Cindy!  It was great having you as a member of the class.

Teri

     When students are engaged in learning it makes all the differnce in the world.  Engagement can be in many forms.  I believe student engagement creates a positive way to learn.  One way to have students stay engaged is to vary the lessons.  Doing the same thing day after day, week after week, is dull and boring.  Because students "know what's coming"...

Cindy, I think our Fabulous First Fridays are great too.  When we first started I wasn't sure that the students were learning anything, but I soon found out I was wrong after hearing all the positive things they were saying. 

 

Sometimes we as Teachers need to put in a little more effort - but the rewards are umlimited!

     I read an article entitled "The affect parenting styles have on a child's cognitive development" by Marisol Alarcon.  It discussed the three basic styles of parenting; authoritative, authoritarian and permissive, plus a fourth, uninvolved parenting.  The parenting style you choose depends on a number of factors.  It can be based on how your were raised,...

Cindy,

This is very insightful.  I would point out that we use different vocabulary terms (I use authoritative for what you call authoritarian), but all of your points are great.

 

Also, I took the liberty of moving this to the other part of the discussion board as well.

 

Teri

In this final chapter of the book, teachers and administrators are given the final steps to implementing the “Time to Teach” program featuring the “REFOCUSING” tactic.  The authors make it a point to stress that the program should not be forced, but agreed upon by teachers and administrators.  It is stressed that it is important to give teachers a choice in the matter because in my opinion,...

Beth,

You obviously grasp the material, and your enthusiasm about REFOCUS is wonderful to see.  I am so glad you see the value in it and are willing to share it with others.

Teri

Chapter 11 Reflection

 

Chapter 11 focuses on questions that teachers might have as they implement the “Time to Teach” program in their classroom.  The book outlines very important situations, mentioning best case scenarios, middle of the road, and worst case, so that teachers can be prepared and know how to react to a situation.  Being prepared is half the battle when teaching!

With...

     The key to successful classroom management is being orgainzed, prepared and consistent with established goals.  I beleive this comes with classroom experience.  Different strategies must be tried with different classes.  The teacher learns, through trial and error, what works best for her.  The article, Strategies for Classroom Management" discusses...

Cindy,

I took the liberty of moving this post to the discussion board as well.

Teri

While reading through some of the articles online, I found the most interesting to be about color/moods, ADHD-visual problem link and color blindness.

 

I found it interesting to read about the link between ADHD and visual problems.  Intersting how it is all related to the brain and what researchers are now finding.

 

I also found it intersting to read about the connection between...

Beth,
The latest brain research fascinates me, and there are books available written for educators. One of the courses approved for the Archdiocese is Neurological Implications for Teaching Strategies. I'm not sure when that will be offered, but if your interest was piqued by this topic, you might keep it in mind.
Teri

Chapter 10 Reflection

 

Within chapter 10, the reoccurring theme was benefits of the REFOCUSING technique.  While reading this chapter, I can only say that I fully agree with every word!  The program offers nothing but benefits to students, teachers, parents, and administrators.

 

The first section outlines the benefits of the program to students.  I agree with the statement...

Beth,

You have a clear understanding of the process.  The part I love the most is how it provides documentation in the student's own handwriting. 

Teri

Chapter 8 & 9 Reflection

 

While reading chapters 8 and 9, I found myself picturing my own classroom situation and visualizing the “REFOCUS” technique.  While reading the two chapters, I found myself in agreement with the process of helping the students REFOCUS their attention.  I agree with the idea of replacing warnings with early intervention and when a problem occurs to give...

Beth,

You make a good point by emphasizing the hierarchy of the classroom.  The teacher is the one with the power and has to retain it.  Giving the power to students is really unfair to them because they are not in a place in their lives where they can handle it.  This is why teachers sometimes have problems when they get too "chummy."  We are not their friends, although...

While reading chapter 6, I could not help but believe that if a teacher sets expectations as the chapter title suggests then one will have a cooperative classroom setting.  In this chapter, the rationale and implementation are clearly explained.  I agree with the idea of only having a list of five or fewer basic principles to help govern the classroom.  As with adults, when inundated...

Beth,

You obviously have a firm grasp of the materials in these chapters.  Your last sentence is especially important.  What we have to do is to home in on behavior that needs to be changed without attacking character.  What students do (not who students are) needs to be addressed.  This is where we have to be very careful about the adjectives we use. 

Teri

     Change is good for everyone.  Without it, life can become boring and stagnant.  Students need to have change in the classroom.  Seating is what I change the most in my room.  Usually I change seats about every 6-8 weeks.  The main reason for the change is student personalities.  By this time, students are getting tired of each other.  (Sometimes...

Cindy,

It's so true how we need to show students we like them.  Some of them are pretty hard to like at times!  That's when we need to reframe, or look through different lenses.

 

I had a workshop once where the instructor suggested we see student's weaknesses as strengths that had gotten out of whack.  For example, a child who talks too much has communication skills that need...

Teri, Thanks.  I agree that it is hard to like some students at times, but thinking of their strengths as weaknesses is a positive way to interact with them.

Cindy

Please find my reflection for week 4 posted early as I anticipate being in the hospital until the weekend.

 

Chapter 4 Reflection:

“Location, location, location” couldn’t have been a better way to start this chapter!  In chapter 4, the authors relay very simple, but important information to teachers:  arrangement of the classroom!

 

Desk location/arrangement...

Wow!  Did the authors of this book know where every teacher is coming from or what?  I believe every teacher should read this chapter and have a copy of it handy.  I could relate to this chapter very well since I have experienced quite a few of the particular stressors mentioned.

 

Telling without teaching is a strong paragraph because students need the active participation and...

Beth,

You sure packed a bunch of insights into a few paragraphs.  Your thoughts on threats struck a chord with me.  When we threaten, we automatically set ourselves up as bullies.  Who wants to be taught by a bully?  In addition, I appreciate your self-reflection.  Who among us is perfect?  We learn all of our lives.  I love teaching at this level because I learn so...

As I read Chapter 3, I could appreciate the level of frustration teachers feel in the classroom.  Everyone gets to this point during the school year.  Some reach it quicker and more often than others.  Unfortunately, some teachers may experience this level of frustration daily.  It is unfortunate for everyone, the teacher, the misbehaved student and the student with good behavior. ...

While reading chapter 2, I found it quite interesting.  As the mother of a pre-school age child, ready to have my second, and middle school teacher, I felt as if I had read this article before in a parenting magazine.  While reading the article, I nodded my head in agreement that all parents love their children unconditionally and that loving parents are warm and nurturing.  When I got...

Beth,

I can really identify with your post.  I never had issues with students, but my children could really push my buttons.

 

In regard to the parents of your students, my first thought is that they are doing what they think is best.  While we may think their response is misguided, and that they aren't doing their children any favors, they are coming from another perspective. ...

Teri,

 

Thanks for your insight...never thought about it like that...the parent might be thinking "if she does it that way, then I should too..." 

 

Again, thanks for the insight and have a great week!

 

Beth

All,

 

I apologize for posting my reflection paper here.  I had difficulty trying to send it through the discussion box and I e-mailed Teri at the aol address only to have the message returned.  Please accept my apology and know that I am trying to remedy the situation.  Hope all is well with everyone.

 

Beth

 

Beth Marlow
Oct. 8, 2006
Reflection chapter 1

While reading...

Beth,

 

No need to apologize.  You found an alternate way when others didn't work.  I think that's the definition of initiative.

 

 

Beth Marlow
Oct. 8, 2006
Reflection chapter 1

While reading chapter 1 of Time to Teach I found the litany to be so very true.  We are so much more than just “teachers who teach curriculum,” but yet often we don’t see ourselves as more.  I thought the authors brought up an excellent point in Belief #2 saying “when we encounter teacher bashing, we need to remember that most people are in awe...

Please take a moment to introduce yourself.  Let us know your current position, your previous experience, your level of education and the school(s) attended, and any personal items you would like to include.

Hi, I'm Beth Smith, I'm a 48 year old mother of two teenagers who came to teaching as a third or fourth career (I lost count).  This is my fifth year as the Middle School Science Teacher at St. John's Regional Catholic School in Frederick, Maryland.  For my first four years, I was the only science teacher.  Because we have now gone to three tracks, I am now the 7th and 8th...

Welcome, Beth!  Thanks for making the long trek down here for orientation.  Your menagerie sounds great for kids, but I have to say I'm glad it's at your house and not mine!

 

Teri

Beth,

So glad that you were able to make the drive and meet with us.  I enjoy the first meeting because you can put faces to the names. 

Diane

Hi Beth,

     So glad to see that you are a pet lover, too. At one point I had two dog, two three cats, a Burmese python and an iguana.

Now I am down to one cat and one dog. That is why I have time to conitnue my education!!

My name is Lucy Buccheri.  I have been with the Archdiocese of Baltimore for 7 years now.   I teach full time at Our Lady Queen of Peace and I also teach 4th grade part time Religious Education at Our Lady of Hope School.I am really looking forward to this class and I hope to be able to afford to take many more. 

Hi Lucy!  Is it hard to commute between the two schools?  At least they are both on the eastern side of town.  Glad to have you, and I too hope this is the beginning of more offerings.

 

Teri

Lucy,

 

It's great to know someone from the neighborhood! As you will note, I too teach at OLH/SLS.  Hope you have a great week!

 

Beth

Hi Terri - I only go to OLH on Sundays.   The rest of the week I am at OLQP.  I keep myself pretty busy between the two schools, my teenage daughter and husband.  Lucy.

Well, that is certainly a better arrangement!  Teaching is stressful enough without having to commute between schools every day.

Marylou, my son graduated from Mount Carmel some 15 years ago.  Do you recall the name of the Priest who was the basketball coach at that time?  Lucy

I consider my self to be somewhat computer literate...

but I am having a difficult time maeuvering through the discussone board  -  Please help.

Lucy,

 

Sharepoint can be a little tricky.  Give me a call, and I will try to guide us through together.

My name is Becky Bennett.  I teach second grade at Our Lady Queen of Peace School.  This is my 18th year teaching for the Archdiocese.  I hold a masters degree from Towson State University in Elementary Education.

Welcome, Becky!  So many of my friends attended Towson.  They must be doing something right there because they are great teachers.

 

Teri

Hi there, Becky,

     I told Sarah that I met you and that she will have to help you with the computer. I found out that she does not know how to send an attachment, but I will teach her and she can teach you!! Good Luck with the course

Hello!  My name is Beth Marlow and I am currently in my 8th year of teaching at Our Lady of Hope/St. Luke School located in Dundalk.  I am currently teaching 6th grade Social Studies, Science, and English.  I have experience teaching 4th and 5th grade Social Studies as well.

 

My educational experience includes a BA in Political Science and Sociology from Mary Baldwin College...

Hi Beth,

 

It' nice to meet you.  I'm looking forward to working with you.  Did you decide on a name for your new son?  Talk with you soon.  Cindy

Hi Beth!  It's exciting that we'll be able to celebrate your new arrival with you. 

 

My oldest daughter just completed her MA in teaching at College of Notre Dame as well.  I think it prepared her well.  She spent last year teaching first grade in PG county and is now teaching in Tampa.

 

Teri

Congratulations on the new one!  I had my second while I was finishing (very belatedly) my BS.  He was supposed to be due over spring break, but he was a little early!  It all works out.  Hang in there:) 

Diana Fitzpatrick

PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE:
I have been teaching since 1976 and have been teaching technology classes since 1984.
My journey began with a Bachelors Degree from Towson University in Math Secondary Education with a minor in Speech and Drama. I obtained a Masters of Leadership in Teaching (Curriculum Concentration) from Notre Dame of Maryland in 1994. I have also completed the Certificate...

Wow, Diane, when do you have time to breathe? 

 

Diane gives us a good model here when she writes her name above (sometimes it's placed below) her post.  Because our names are on the side, we know who is posting what, but it is still good form to write it on the post as well.

 

Teri

(Following her good example)

It was so nice meeting you last night.  I'm glad I got to come for at least part.  I love musical theater - but only watching - you don't want to hear me sing:)  My kids (17 and 15) are huge pug fans - of course they are fans of most dogs - does yours have nasal problems?   We're working on talking my husband into a dog.  Beth

Fortunate that my pug does not have nasal problems.  She is very active and keeps me busy playing when I am home.  Great company that my daughters are older. 

Hi Diane,

I was so surprised to see you Monday night at the introduction class.  You look fabulous.  I can't believe that I graduated 26 years ago and you were my homeroom teacher.  I had my reunion (25 years) this past spring.  It was great to see so many people that I haven't seen in all these years. 

I look forward to working with you.

 

Cindy

Diane,

You seem to be a very busy woman.  How do you find time to continue your education?  My son, Sammy-he's 11. is a pug lover.  I'm sure he would go crazy over your pug.  Well, good luck with the class.

                             ...

My name is Cindy Turcea and am a 4th grade teacher at Our Lady Queen of Peace School.  I worked part-time at St. Margaret School as an aide for Kindergarten and Pre-4 while going to school for my Master's.  I graded in 2004 with a MAT from Towson University.  This is my third year teaching.  I have 2 children, Ben 13 and an 8th grader at St. Margaret and Annie, 12 and a 7th grader...

Hi Cindy!

 

Nice to have another Towson-ite!  You have a bit of a commute from Bel Air. 

 

My son is in 5th grade now.  I remember 4th grade as a pretty pleasant time for all of my three kids.  Nine can be a wonderful year.

 

Teri

Cindy,

So glad to be working with you as a colleague.  WOW - Catholic High 26 years ago - where does the time go! 

Diane

     My name is Marylou Farnsworth and I am the librarian at Our Lady of Mount Carmel High School. This is my fourth year in this position, but I have been a member of the Mount Carmel parish for sixteen years.

     Before coming to Mount Carmel I was the librarian/teacher at Our Lady of the Rosary High School. Unfortunately, that school was closed. I have...

Hi Marylou!  It's great to have you in class.  With you and Diane here, I feel connected to Mt. Carmel again!

 

Teri 

Are there any questions about Netiquette?  Does anyone have any horror stories or heartwarming stories to share?

When I was first getting very excited about the Internet, in 1995, I belonged to a listserv sponsored by the University of Maryland and moderated by a wonderful professor of computer science.  The point of the listserv was to help K-12 teachers navigate through this new world.  It was great--very civil and very professional.  After several years, some education professors at the U of...

This section is for informal communication, while the other sections will be for formal assignments.  If you have an idea unrelated to the course, if something great (or not so great) has happened in your life, or if you just want to share some virtual time with your online friends and colleagues, this is where you want to go.

I would like to ask everyone to please keep my Godson, JJ (who is 6) and his family in your prayers.  Last year he was diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor.  His family is making monthly trips to Bethesda to NIH for treatment.  This week he was due to go back home to Alabama however was called back.  He has since required platelet transfusions and doctors are going to start...

Beth,

I will certainly add JJ to my prayer list.  He has the sweetest smile!  My heart goes out to all of you, but you are right about the power of prayer.

Beth,

     JJ is such a cutie pie! My sister-in-law has just undergone a double mastectomy just five weeks ago. Her prognosis is good and she is in fine spirits. I am sure that all of our prayers helped. I will definately be adding JJ to my prayer list.

Marylou

Thank you for adding JJ and his family to your prayers...that's all the family is asking for and needs at this time.  It means so much to me to know that JJ and his family have so many prayers surrounding them. 

 

Thank you!  Thank you! Thank you!!

 

Beth

Hello All!

 

Just wanted to let you know that as of Wed. Oct. 25, 2006, I will be on materinity leave (as long as I don't go early).  Please change my e-mail from bmarlow@olhsl.com (work) to dbgmarlow@comcast.net (home).  I will update you on the birth as soon as I am able.

 

On Friday we went to see JJ and his family at NIH in Bethesda.  His white blood...

How exciting for you and your family as your big day approaches.  The new email is duly noted, and JJ will continue to be remembered in my prayer list. 

 

I think your enthusiasm and energy level are contagious.  I can't believe all you are accomplishing with a new baby so imminent!

 

Hello everyone!  Just wanted to let you know that Collin was born on Wed. Oct. 25, 2006 at 4:32 pm.  He weighed 9 lbs. 10 oz. and was 21 3/4" long!  Everything went well and our longest delay included two delays getting into the OR for the C-Section.  We both came home on Saturday and enjoyed a restful weekend (ok...Collin enjoyed a restful weekend!)  Big brother...

What great news!  Wow, 9 lbs 10 ozs, he's a big boy.  So glad he's healthy and everything went well for you.  I can't believe you've posted so soon after delivery, but I'm thrilled to learn about your good news.

Teri

As I write this message, it saddens me to inform you that JJ's (my Godson) tumor has grown by 20% and now pressing on his left optic nerve.  His parents have been advised to stop participating in the study at NIH and go see another doctor in Huston, TX.  On Dec. 4, 2006 JJ and his parents have an appointment. 

 

I ask you to please keep JJ and his family in your prayers. ...

Beth,
I'm so sorry about JJ, and will of course keep him and his family in my prayers. It's wonderful that your boys are doing so well--today of all days, we have to count our blessings.

Classroom Management Is Important

Teachers cannot cover the instructional material if they have to spend an inordinate amount of time dealing with discipline issues.  Management styles vary; what works for you?  Why do you think your style works?  If you think you need to improve in this area, please ask for help here.  Please read Top 10 Tips for Classroom Discipline and Management...

I agree with quite a bit of the website.  I was especially struck by number 10) Start Fresh Everyday.  Remember Anne of Green Gables: Everyday is a new day, with no mistakes in it.  I try to keep that in mind for myself as well as my students.  Humor is very important, as is fairness and consistency.  But I think the biggest key is really liking your students.  Even the...

Beth, I'm so glad you are finding the book engrossing.  Rick Dahlgren is a great guy as well as a fine writer, and he has been in the trenches.

 

In respect to overplanning, I agree that it's better than having to scramble.  Keeping students busy does cut down on opportunities for misbehavior, but sometimes I worry about how busy students are, both in and out of school.  Your...

Beth,

     I thought #10 was an excellent point also. I had a case last year where I suspected a student of plagarizing. He was furiuos at getting caught and was , of course, upset with me. However, the next time he came into the library to do research, I jumped at the opportunity to help when he asked for it. I never mentioned the previous incident, but made sure that he...

I agree with a number of the classroom management tips given in the Education World article.  Rules and discipline must be established at the beginning of the school year.  Students must know what is expected of them each day.  If they don't have rules and proceedures set up by the teacher, how can the teacher expect them to be ready to learn.  Trust and structure are key to having...

When establishing the boundaries at the start of every class, I would always fall back on the Golden Rule.  It covers just about everything!  Respect really is key. 

 

As you have discovered, the additional websites have a wealth of information.  Some will contradict the information we will read in the book, so I am looking forward to the discussions we can have.

 

In my classroom, my management style is very simple.  I begin by asking my students what they expect of me and then in turn I ask what they believe my expectations should be of them.  Often, we have the same ideas!  My expectations include each student acting in an appropriate way, trying their best (putting forth a best effort), and realizing that learning can be fun.  I stress...

Wow, this is really a list of best practices.  The only thing I would disagree with is your style as aggressive.  It actually sounds pretty assertive to me.  We will be discussing aggressive/assertive/passive styles in future posts.

 

 

Beth,

     I really like your idea of asking the kids up front what they expect. I think this would work well with high school students. Teens can be very cooperative if you speak to the openly and frankly. After all, they are emerging adults. They are learning that along with the privileges of maturity also come the responsibilities.

I agree with all of the points in the article and I probably would add one more – be human.  I try my best to be consistent and aware of my own moods.  I will actually tell them when I am having a bad day so they will be careful about not “pushing” it – be honest with them – this will gain respect.  I treat each student with respect and expect the same in return.
    The...

Diana,

 

You bring up a good point that I didn't think about...being human!!  How true!!  We all have bad days or are in bad moods, often times becuase of something that happened at home in the morning.  For example, if a student forgets a paper, it is necessary to make a judgement call and ask oneself how the student came in?  Was the student late?  Was the student...

It's such a pleasure to read your responses.  Diane, I couldn't agree more about being human.  Otherwise, we set an impossible standard and guarantee failure.  Also, the strategies you mention are crucial.  I felt so sorry for my daughter last year when she was teaching in a strictly controlled system and had to be on a certain page on a certain day.  Teachers need a certain...

Diane,

     Loved the remark about "The Look" Once you have developed that you can just do "the Look" to the guilty party and then just keep right on teaching!!!! I knew my own "Look" had been perfected when a student said, "Oooooh, Ms. Farnsworth that look would shatter ice cubes."

Cindy,

     I could not agree with more. People who don't teach do not know what they are missing!! Yesterday here at Mount Carmel we had a day of reflection and prayer about our roles as teachers. My breakout group discussed respect. We agreed that mutual respect was the key, but that many students need to be taught what that means. Many kids feel that if you are disciplining...

Top Ten tips - This is a good place to start, if you are developing your own discipline plan. I really agree with the #1. Start out with a really tight rein and you can loosen it up as the year goes on. It is much harder to rein your students in. Staying with the horse metaphor, you must approach the horse at the very beginning, look him in the eye and let him know you mean business. Mount him and...

The "settling down" activity that you mentioned is a good one.  In math it was my drills or homework correction time.  In Technology it is getting onto the machines and into programs.  No time to fool around.

Isn't it wonderful when students respond to logical thinking. 

Most times, I will give the reasoning behind a change or request.  Students don't think...

I think the Top Ten Tips are great.  As the year goes on I definitely loosen my grip on the kids.  Tip #2 is one I definitely follow.  I believe everyone in the class has to be treated fairly.  What is good for one, is good for everyone!  I find Tip #3 is the hardest to follow.  At times I know I'm taking valuable class time to handle problems.  Hopefully, I will...

I think that we all have been in the situation where it takes too much time to handle a problem.  Just the other day, I had a student ask to go to the lavatory - 20 minutes later they were not back - I luckily had someone look after my class and was able to locate them.  This took an additional 10 minutes and interrupted the time of 2 additional faculty members.  Let's just...

re: Top 10 Tips for classroom Discipline and Management.

Do you agree with the author?

 

Never smile until Christmas is a good form to follow, eventhough it is difficult.  If you set the tone right from the start, students will know what is expected of them

 

Some students "can do no wrong" and it is heart wrenching when they do 1 thing "out of the ordinary"...

Lucy, 

Your comment about the student who can do no wrong brought back a fond memory for me.  I was very well behaved in school, but one time in sixth grade I got in trouble for responding to another girl who was gabbing.

 

I remember having to sit out recess on the school steps and one teacher passing me by and being surprised that I was there.  Her response really helped me. ...

 Constructivism
The current thinking in education emphasizes the constructivist approach, which states that students should actively build their own learning, and teachers should move from their traditional roles of providing instruction to becoming coaches or facilitators.  For classroom management, constructivism can be problematic because discipline depends on a hierarchy.  Can...

While reading Teri's question and defintion of constructivism, I found it interesting to reflect upon the defintion.  "Blending the role of teacher with the role of facilitator"...hmmm...isn't that what we're doing already? 

 

I know in my classroom, I believe I am both teacher and facilitator as I (try) to bring my students to a point where I can get them thinking on their...

Hi Beth,

Your thoughts were interesting.  I didn't look at the teacher as both faciliator and traditional teacher.  Since this is only the beginning of my third year as a teacher, I guess I'm still stuck on the "traditional" teacher.  Your ideas about getting students to become more independent and self-sufficient are good.  I thought that this constructivism was geared...

Cindy, While I agree with you that the constructivism idea seems more for middle/high school, the seeds must be sown in elementary school. Instead of having your kids reread the text, perhaps you could try something else. What about peer tutoring? Sometimes, when you get someone else to explain something, it makes more sense then rereading the text. This is another way for the student to find the answer...

This is something to think about, good thoughts.  I agree, I love 4th grade.

Beth, your point about getting students to think on their own is what we are all about as educators.  Unfortunately, sometimes the knowledge they "construct" is just flat out wrong and so we have to utilize direct instruction at that point.

Beth,

You make a good point about the comfort level. Because of my experience and confidence in subject matter, I am now quite comfortable in almost any class situation.  I have worked with Pre-K through Adults and it comes down to knowing your "audience".  Actually a Kindergarten student is not much different from a High School students, they are just smaller. ...

Constructivism is a type of learning style that I don't fully agree with.  I believe this type of approach would be very difficult for elementray students.  To me, these students require a great deal of structure and guidance.  Constructivism offers very little discipline and younger students need this to reinforce their learning.

A possible example of blending the traditional role...

Cindy,

 

I found your response interesting regarding the grade/age level of students which you believe constructivism would work.  I agree that it would be most effective in the middle school/high school age group but I also think it could work if presented properly in the elementary grades.  Having taught 4th grade Social Studies in the past, I believe it would be more difficult (though...

Thanks for your comments.

Cindy

Cindy, you might be interested in a book entitled Other People's Children by Lisa Delpit.  Her experience as a young educator, excited about constructivism and eager to incorporate it into the classroom, is shared in that work.  What she found was that constructivism works well when children have a good background that the teacher can build upon.  Otherwise, the foundation has to be...

Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll look for that book.

Cindy

Cindy,

I definitely agree with you!  The Constuctivist approach does not belong in an elementary classroom.  Young children need the guidance of the teaher at this age.  They are at the age where they need to be learning the basics.  How can we expect them to plan the time line or requirements for a subject when they are just beginning to learn...

Becky,

Thanks for your thoughts!  I agree with you.

Cindy

Two of the factors that I feel influence the amount of Constructivism the most are subject content and grade level. 
   I must say that it has always been easier to use a constructivism approach in my Tech classes.   I give the basic instruction and then let them create and I am constantly surprised at the wonderful quality of work.  Being one-on-one with the computer...

Elizabeth,

 

You bring up an interesting point that made me think...in your last line of the discussion, you stated "exposure has taught me you have to give students some examples and some different ways to reach the answer for them to pick from, not just expect it to happen for them naturally." 

 

I agree with you and while reflecting upon that statement I thought...

Beth, I liked your comment about your grad class and the concept for doing math. While I think that it is really, really important to teach kids how to explore and find answers on their own, they must be equipped with the tools to do it. I feel math and reading are two essential tools that should be taught in the traditional way before we can send our kids out to discover and explore on their...

Hi Diane,

 

I agree that grade level determines how much "freedom" students have.  Of course, like you, it also depends what you teach.  Art and computer give students more of a chance to be creative.  I also agree that each class is different and teaching strategies depend on this.

Good insights!!

Diane, how true that we have to accomodate our pupils. So many times we become frustrated because the needs of the system take precedence over what is right for the students. Teri

     When I think about this concept of constructivist vs. traditional teaching, I immediately think about my high school science classes. I think the teachers were sucessful in combining both techniques. First there would be a lecture introducing a new concept, followed by some lab work where we would record our result. I always liked this "hands-on" approach.

Marylou, how wonderful that you remember your school experience so intensely. This discussion always reminds me of nature vs nurture or whole language vs phonics. In all of the arguments, both sides are important. Sometimes lecture is appropriate, sometimes projects work well. Teri

Constructivist Approach states that students should actively build their own learning. Teachers should move from traditional roles of providing instruction to becoming coaches or facilitators.
This approach is currently in practice at some universities who cater to “adult” learners, mostly those over 25 years old and who are in the work force. These learners are in school because they want to...

I agree with you that this approach works well on the college level but I think it could also work on the high school level.  Students taking acvanced classes in high school usually have the skill they need to plan theur own learning.  A teacher would need to act as a facilitator to make sure  the students were covering the curriculum in the appropriate time. 

Becky,

It seems like we both have some similar thoughts about when constructivism should begin.  High school does seem like a more appropriate age level.

 

Cindy

Toolbox Revisited - Dept of Edu Report

 

This report is very data and stats based.  However, a couple of things did catch my eye.

 

1.  Dual enrollment while in high school, credit by examination, and the use of summer terms all added to the dynamic mix of time and space that marked student pathways in the 1990's.

 

Let's face it - too many students are not interested...

Reply about Constructivism:  I believe that the fact that we are discussing this learning style is no accident.  We should be prepared for a new trend in learning.  It's only a matter of time.

Lucy,

I find it somewhat ironic that in my graduate classes, almost all of the instruction is still a lecture style.  The professors utilize this method because it works for them.  I am a big fan of mixing methods:  projects, group work, lecture, and so on because what may work for one won't work for all.

Teri

I believe the Constuctivist approach is appropriate for certain age groups and subject matter.  This approach is not for the primary grades.  Young children should not have as much control as the teacher in deciding how or when learning takes place.  A teacher must carry out a more traditional role with young children in order to maintain control of the group.  Sometimes a...

Becky,

Something else that came to mind when I was reading your post was the sense of security that we have to encourage.  If we let students make all of the decisions, we are giving them too much power at an age when they are not ready, which creates insecurity.  I firmly believe in a balance and working up to levels that are appropriate.

Teri

Lower Level Misbehavior
In the text Time to Teach, Rick Dahlgren stresses the importance of attending to lower level misbehavior before it escalates into more serious misbehavior.  What would you say are the most persistent examples of lower level misbehavior?  This will vary according to grade level.   Please read Eleven Techniques for Better Classroom Discipline in the External...

   I would say my most persistent examples of lower level misbehavior are repeating myself (stop talking, read, don’t draw, clear off you desk).  Sometimes by the end of the day my frustration level so high, I can blow up over the smallest thing.  Of course, after this happens, I feel really awful.  I think I’ve improved and have been trying to catch myself before I get too...

Cindy,

I know what you mean about the "repeating" yourself dilemma.  I am guilty of that myself at times.  I try to use the positive approach and focus on the behaviors that are appropriate and that I would like them to use.  It is an easier technique to master with younger students – they want to please.  High school can be a little more challenging.  At this age,...

Cindy, Do you find that your students have trouble when they transtion from task to task? My daughter's 4th grade teacher here at Mount Carmel was a wonder at this. He had his kids involved in the process of moving from task to task. To prepare for the journal writing class, the first student would get up and go to the box that contained the folders in alphabetical order. She took hers and called the...

What a fabulous idea.  This sounded like a well-run class.  I bet his class ran like clockwork.  This teacher sounded very organized, and this in turn, allowed his class to be organized too.  Thanks for sharing.  Cindy

Cindy,

What works for me is making sure students know they only get one request.  After that, misbehavior has a consequence.  I see teachers using bears climbing up a rope or checks on the board, but all that signals to students is that they get three chances and the first two don't count.  Students quickly learn how to maneuver around us.

Teri

Teri,

I agree with you that it gives that student 2 free chances.  Maybe this is something I need to work on.

Thanks Cindy

I totally agree with this article being more helpful than the last.  It had some really good, easy to understand, easy to follow, ideas.  Like you, modeling and monitoring are probably to of my favorites.  I also have been trying the quiet voice - and it does work,  but its hard to remember when you just want to get one more message across.  I guess we all spend WAY to much...

The most persistent examples of lower level misbehavior and

quiet-no talking, walk-don't run, please cover your mouth when you cough/sneeze.

 

11 Techniques for Better classroom Discipline-  I certainly agree with all the techniques and have had the opportunity to apply most of them.

 

I especially like the low-profile intervention when a student is "off task" bringing...

Lucy,

I agree with your examples of lower-level misbehavior.  I also agree that many of the interventions work well.  I have tried a number of them myself.  The "good example" student does work well in elementary school.  Many students want to be mentioned as "the good student".  Good thoughts.

Cindy

Lucy,

Sometimes we have to be aware of cultural implications of praising students who are well-behaved.  As silly as it seems to us, there are some cultures where success in school is not esteemed, and children are actually ridiculed for doing well.  I'm very thankful that my experience has been the opposite.

Teri

Lucy,

I also like #7 Low Profile Intervention.  A teacher can keep moving with her lesson while drawing a student back simply by bringing his name during her lecture.  She could also use #6 Non-Verbal Cues without disrupting her entire class to handle a behavior problem. 

Becky: I agree with you that yelling out answers, getting out of their seats, and talking to neighbors is something that can quickly escalate if not taken care of immediately.  Unfortunately, I have seen some 1st and 2nd year teachers become completely unglued at any of these situations.  They have the "book smarts" but are not prepared for classroom control. ...

Cindy, You're right, being consistent in your technique will be beneficial.  I try to keep index cards with me until I really have  the technique down to a science.  Sticky Notes work and you could try writing some down on poster board and posting them somewhere above your door.  My memory isn't what it use to be so I write everthing down.  Lucy

Great article – What a nice refresher on techniques. 
   I can really relate to the very first section on frustrations with focusing.  Imagine a class full of computers and the children sitting in front of the monitors.  They are excited about working on their assignment.  They are also intent on the task at hand, and at this point, have “blocked” me out and any directions...

Hi Diane,

I can see how trying it is to get the attention of the class with a room full of computers.  Your frustration level could rise quickly.  Being prepared with detailed directions sounds like the best way to decrease teacher/student stress.  Knowing consequences before hand can save a lot of frustrations.  Good thoughts!  I really liked the article too.

Cindy

Diane,

Something else to keep in mind is that these techniques do not always work when students have a physical issue with focusing.  Sometimes medical professonals have to be consulted.  When behavior is a matter of choice, rather than chemistry, I find myself much less patient.

Teri

While reading the article 11 Techniques for Better Clasrroom Discipline, I found it to be a great resource for not only more experienced teachers, but new teachers as well.  While reviewing the article, I made the following notes while thinking about my own experiences in teaching:

 

Technique:

 

1:  Focusing:  While I am a person who has a loud voice, I find that when...

Beth,

I agree with you.  I enjoyed the article and found I do some of these techniques.  Many are easy to don't take much time.

Soft-spoken voices do not always work.  Some students need a louder voice to hear what's going on and not miss something.

Good thoughts!  Cindy

Beth,

I'm glad you found the reading worthwhile.  I do tend to use the softer voice strategy, but we have to find what works for us.

 

Of all the techniques, I personally think modeling is the most potent.  "Do as I say and not as I do" just sets us up as hypocrites, and teenagers especially will see right through that.  So many times I hear teachers complain about...

     What is the most persistant low level behavior? I think that would have to be transition, whether it is from task to task in elementary school, or room to room in high school many students have difficulty in settling down. In McDaniels "11 Techniques..." he emphasizes the importance of focusing. When I ws a librarian in an elementyary school I really had a problem...

Mary,

 

What a great perspective you provided...from elementary school all the way to high school!  I often forget that the work I am doing now is helping to prepare the students for high school.  I agree with you and the idea that it depends on the grade/age/maturity level of the group as to what kind of discipline to enforce.  Of course, positive discipline is great...

Marylou,

I am always amazed at how some high school students still need to be taught proper behavior.  Our assumption is that they should have certain background knowledge, but sadly, that is not always the case.  I once had a student who had been so poorly socialized he did not realize that he should say '"thank you" after I did him a small favor.  Things that he should have...

I agree that transition time can be very disrupting.  I use daily math drills every morning when students have unpacked their backpacks and copied the homework assignments.  Rules are rules.  The older you get the more is expected of you.  Each grade level should have additional rules/consequences.  Teachers need to be prepared and stay consistent.  Great thoughts....

Cindy,

 

You bring up a great point about transition time...that seems to be the biggest challenge in our school too.  It's funny because with my son being in pre-k 3 has already learned to walk in the halls silently and how to stay in a straight line but when you look at our middle school age children, it's a joke and I'm just a nag when asking them to follow the rules.  Where are...

Beth,

I don't think it's that they don't understand the concept.  My first response is that they don't think it's important.  The middle schoolers are not longer at a place where pleasing you is a top priority.  Plus, hormones are flooding their systems, and their brain chemistry is impacted.  This is part of a future discussion we will be having, but as you can see, it's a great...

Beth and Teri, I agree about the middle schoolers. They are definantly in a "class" by themselves. They are all over the place and sometimes they just do not have control.  Sometimes, a review of the rules or expectations may need to be done. Let them come up with their own class rule list. That would help them to at least feel that they have some control. I also know that this middle...

I would have to agree with you. Transition time can be a lower level misbehavior in all grade levels.  While teaching second grade I deal with this by counting to the magic number 3.  My students know that when I get to three they should be ready to go.  They don't realize at this age level that I sometimes count at different speeds depending on how fast they are moving.  This...

I think students yelling out the answers, getting out of their seats, and talking to their neighbors while attending to seatwork are common lower level misbehaviors seen in a second grade classroom.  I know I've dealt with them in my classroom over the years.  These issues need to be taken care of before they get totally out of control.  If not, a teacher can lose control of her class.

Becky,

I love it when participants are willing to have dissenting views and can support their positions logically and respectfully.  Ideally, we want our students to have this ability but not to drive us crazy in their journey toward autonomy.

 

In respect to the I messages, I think they are useful in some situations.  Sometimes speaking to students privately, rather than using class...

I'm behind again, but I really liked the reading this week.  I think it is so instinctive, especially for beginning teachers, to try to just work around, to not sweat the small stuff, and its good to have it pointed out again that that's probably just going to get you escalation.  I loved the eleven discipline ideas.  I recognized many of my colleagues in one or more of the eleven points. ...

Beth,

I like to think of this as the Rudy Guiliani approach to discipline.  Regardless of what you think of his politics, New York City became a much safer place when lower level crime was targeted.

 

Teri

  Teaching Appropriate Behavior
Some of the most common misconceptions that teachers have arise from thinking that students come to school knowing how to behave.  Unfortunately, there are many children who have not been properly socialized at home.  Our job is not to judge their parents, but we do have to acknowledge that our work load is impacted.  Moving from "they should...

While reading the Top 6 Keys to being a successful teacher, I have to say I smiled!  I thought about my day to day interactions with my students and saw that I try to employ the 6 keys in my classroom everyday.  While very basic, they are good to keep in mind and remember.  I especially agreed with #3:  high expectations.  I am a true believer...

Beth, I agree with you.  The article was a good way to remember the basic Ideas of being a good teacher.  I agree to that what you think is right, doesn't necessarily mean your students do too!

 

Cindy

Beth,

I smiled when I read your post because it reminded me of a disagreement I had with my teenaged daughter.  When I insisted she wear clothes that were a little less revealing of her ample cleavage, she accused me of trying to make her "Amish!"

 

It's nice when for parents when reinforcement comes from other sources because students are certainly getting different messages...

Beth,

 I also enjoyed reading this weeks' article.  I believe that I also demonstrate the six characteristics that were listed but it's nice to hear them again.  Out of the six I truly believe that I am a very fair teacher.  It's so important to the students that they know you don't  have different rules for different students. 

 I liked the "Top 6 Keys..." Notice that they are also good for parenting and life in general. I think that having a sense of humor makes a teacher seem more down to earth. Pair that with the positive attitude and the kids will really feel comfortable around you. Having high expectations is a must. I was really shocked when Baltimore City announced that it was lowering the passing grade....

Marylou,

 

What a good point you bring up!  I forgot about Balitmore City lowering their grading scale and standards.  I also thought that it was a shame--why are we lowering the expectations of students?  How is it going to be for them in real life when they are out in the workforce and need to complete a task.  Is lowering the standards in order to accomplish the task...

Hi, wow, does you comments bring back some memories.  It is amazing how much we assume our kids know and understand.  However, all we have to do (at least as far as appropriate dress is concerned) is to watch commercials, magazine adds, and TV to know that what is being modeled for them is not necessarily what they should be understanding as "appropriate".  I think the job...

Marylou,

Great point about never assuming.  This goes back to our getting worked up about what kids "should" know.  Sometimes, through no fault of their own, they have just not been taught what they should have been taught.  Our job as educators is to fill those gaps without making the students feel ashamed.  Your kindness really shines through in the example you give...

I agree that flexibility is the biggie.  As I said, being a teacher requires constant flexibility.  A week doesn't go by without something in your schedule changing. 

What a fabulous thing you did for the girls and the Wal-Mart clothes.  Making posters and helping them learn what is appropriate for interviews.  I know this is something that group will always remember. ...

     I enjoyed this article about the 6 successful keys to being a good teacher.  Of course, they all seem obvious but it's good to reread them again.  It would be great to use all of these keys daily.  "A teacher should do this and that and the next thing."  There are many things we "should" do.  Some days it's harder than others to...

Cindy,

I saw a comic once where a fellow was walking along the path of least resistance and then ended up falling off a cliff.  The implication was the easy way out can lead to disaster in the long run.  I cut it out of the paper and laminated it into a bookmark to remind me to keep expectations high. 

Teri

Your point about manners is well taken.  Just the other day, I had to remind 2 Senior boys about proper manners. They just came into the lab while I was teaching, sat down and began to work.  They didn't acknowledge me let alone ask permission to enter and work.  I did have a conversation with them about proper behavior.  With High School students I...

Cindy,

I agree with you, where have good manners gone?  Today it seems as though children just don't know the rules of common courtesy.  I try to encourage good manners in my classroom but it needs to start and be reinforced at home.

I also agree with you that we need to set high expectations for our students.  Many children are not self-motivating so it's up to us to...

Within my own classroom, I have no difficulty with any of the 6 points and think that each has merit. As I was reading, I found myself thinking of situations beyond the classroom limits.   I was especially drawn to High Expectations, Consistency and Fairness with respect to outside influences.   Over my 30 years of teaching, I have been witness to situations where expectations had...